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Blanket Permission to Podfic

Hey flist,

So, if you've been reading my journal at all in the past year, you've probably noticed that I've kinda gotten into this whole podfic thing. And by "kinda" I actually mean most of my fannish time is spent making podfic, or listening to it, or writing meta about it. *headdesk*

I'm a little obsessed.

You've also probably noticed that I'm currently running a [community profile] podremix/[community profile] podremix exchange. As part of that exchange I've started a list of author's who have given blanket permission to record their fic.

If you're an author, please consider giving blanket permission. It makes things soooo much easier for podficers. And then let me know so I can add you to the list (I've been linking to places where author's give permission, if you put it in your profile or on you fic sticky post or whatever I can link to that and if you later change your mind it's easy to fix, or you can just leave a comment [here, or at the blanket permission post, wherever] and I'll link to that).

Really, podfic is awesome and there totally needs to be more of it! Don't be self conscious (seriously, I have blanket permission statements and I only have one tiny SCC fic which has already been podficed), if you have fic and are cool with the idea of podfic, let podficers know!


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Aug. 16th, 2010 06:04 pm (UTC)
Just curious, how wide would you say podficcing has branched within fandoms? I always kind of assumed that it was a boy slash and/or gen thing only because that's all I've ever seen. I do admit, though, that my survey is woefully inadequate to get a good picture of it as a whole. You know me: I read and write more femslash (and lately, OT3) fic than anything else. Have you seen any of that around? Is there a big place (other than amplification, which I'm following) where I could poke around and find it if you're not aware of it?
Aug. 16th, 2010 06:35 pm (UTC)
Just curious, how wide would you say podficcing has branched within fandoms?
God, I had like an 80 comment conversation about this with brimtoast. I won't bore you with the details we got into (although I totally need to post that meta) but the answer is really, it depends.

It's obviously not as universal as say, fic or vidding as a fan art but some fandoms/pairings have tons of podfic (SGA, Due South and SPN are the three biggest fandoms with slash pairings leading the counts) others have a decent amount and some have none. And the amount of podfic for a fandom/pairing isn't really related to the size of the fandom.

amplificathon gives points based on how rare a fandom/pairing is so there's a lot of small fandom stuff. Also, if one podficer is dedicated they can create a lot of podfic for a small fandom that can rival that of a larger fandom.

I keep pretty tightly to the fandoms that I'm reading in, so I don't know how much femslash there is out there total. Off the top of my head there's this Grey's Anatomy one, this SPN one, this Merlin one which has a femslash secondary pairing (main pairing being Arthur/Merlin) and this SGA one with really, really secondary Teyla/Elizabeth (main being John/Rodney).

The archive doesn't give slash/het/femslash tags, however they do list pairings so if you check out your fandoms there you can see if any of your pairings show up. Also, [community profile] ladiesbigbang was accepting podfic, so there's likely to be some femslash podfic coming out of that.

And you know, if you were to give blanket permission for people to record your femslash, that might help the cause. Just sayin... ;)
Aug. 16th, 2010 10:21 pm (UTC)
I have to ask -- do people actually get upset if you record a story without permission?

Wait, it's fandom; of course they do.
Aug. 17th, 2010 01:05 pm (UTC)
Yeah, people do. I actually got in trouble a while back because of permission issues. I had done a charity podfic and the person that had won me took care of contacting the author. the author of the fic in question didn't want the podfic made but was too passive aggressive to respond to the email so just made a comment on her journal saying she didn't want podfic of her stuff. Since the person I was dealing with never got a response she decided that the author had probably left fandom and fudged things by telling me she got permission. I was left really awkwardly in the middle a few months later when the author contacted me and demanded I take the podfic down.

Which, I can kinda understand why people want to be asked first. It comes back to the idea of archiving without permission because you are taking someone's fic, in its entirety and posting it somewhere else. If you're someone who really wants to control where your fic is that can be bad for you.

On the one hand I think "You're putting it on the internet you have to realize you're going to lose some control over it" but on the other hand, we are a community and you don't want to piss your neighbours off. So really it is easier to just ask permission first.

I don't really like permission as a rule (what if the author has left fandom? What if they're dead? etc.) however I can accept it as a common courtesy.
The thing is, I get the impression that a lot of people who don't want podfic of their stuff, it's not because of archiving issues (or not just about archiving issues). Like the author that had me take my podfic down? We never got into detail but I think she just didn't like podfic. It wasn't something she found value in and so didn't want it applied to her fic, even though so many other people find value in it and want it. Or some people are just really protective of their stuff and don't want anyone touching it, or besmirching it, and OMG! what if the podficer isn't any good!? Then there'll be this bad version of their work out there.

I have less patients for that kind of thinking because it implies the podfic isn't valuable. As someone who listens to a hell of a lot of it, I recognize that every podfic has value. Especially now when there's so little of it. Maybe in another 5-10 year people will be complaining about the crappy podfic out there but today there just isn't enough of it. Even ones that aren't amazing provide something to those of us that listen to podfic. I listen to podfic a lot at work. I've recently gotten into a fandom (AI RPF) that doesn't have a lot of podfic and I found it actually affected my work because podfic helps me concentrate.

Also, reasons like that make me feel the authors are being kinda hypocritical. It makes me think of authors and PTB that try and stop fans from writing fanfic (especially the author's who do this). I mean fanfic writers are taking other people's characters and ideas and works and playing with them, often in ways that the creators wouldn't approve of. Yet they feel their disapproval of podfic has more significance than TPTB's possible disapproval of their work?

I've also seen author's demand a lot of control over any podfics that are made of their fics. Like the ability to pull the podfic down if they want. Or on artistic levels like they want to listen to it before they give permission (which, WTF? You want the podficer to put the time into making it only to possibly say no after all that work? And yet, I post a link to my previous podfic whenever I ask permission, like it's a resume or something) or want to have a say over what music is added to it.

The thing is, podfic is still too new and rare. It hasn't been established yet within fandom and we're still feeling out the unwritten rules. There are a lot of people that don't know how to handle it and don't see it as a free standing fanwork, only an extension of an existing fanwork (even within the podfic community). Some of us are trying to change that, that's the idea behind multipodicity, but it's slow and so many people just don't care about it enough to think about it.
Aug. 17th, 2010 02:20 am (UTC)
You can add me. All I ask is a notice that it's being done. Or if they want SG-1 fic that I haven't got posted currently, to contact me for help. :)
Aug. 17th, 2010 05:41 pm (UTC)
Awesome! I'm adding you to the list :D
Oct. 3rd, 2010 10:09 pm (UTC)
Oct. 4th, 2010 12:54 am (UTC)
Cool, I've added her. It's funny because today was the day I finally decided to go through the buildup of permission I've collected in the past month and update the list, and I've got a couple new names just today.
Oct. 4th, 2010 12:56 am (UTC)
Well, it was jerakeen linking back to your permissions post that made me think of it. Maybe that happened for others, too.
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